There are numerous celebrities and pro athletes who have come out and said they do the P90X workout but Republican Paul Ryan might be the first Politician to do it.
I do my best to not talk about Politics on this site as I want it to keep it about staying healthy. If you are interested in my political views I am neither a Democrat or Republican. They have both failed us. However, I did listen to Rep. Ryan debate against Obamacare last week and he sounded way more informed then every body debating for it. After seeing this atrocious bill get passed I hope people consider learning how to take care of themselves. If you thought health care was bad before, imagine how bad its going to be when the Govt runs it all. With that, you better be doing a workout like P90X and following the meal plan so you won’t get sick or injured as often. Going to the Dr.s office will not be the same anymore as your Dr. will soon be answering to Nancy Pelosi.
Well Well
What a pretentious ass. I want nothing to do with building your business. If Tony Horton has the same belief, I have no need to be involved. By the way, you are not that successful. I guess you won’t have to be worried about the fair tax on millionaires.
I’d say Tony Horton does have the same belief of health and fitness must be taken care of by the individual and fitness experts. Not the politicians. Its a shame the Paul Ryan plan was even created to get rid of Obamacare. Who and what determines success? I’m hoping the millionaires won’t have to worry about the fair tax either next year when Ron Paul gets elected President and tries to get rid of the IRS.
You still win because I know you will never read my response. Makes it hard for me to reply with a better comment when you put up a fake name and email address. Isn’t it so much fun to call somebody an idiot and not have to answer to their reply?
@Orpheius:
QUOTE: “It is clear that neither Laura nor Brad have done their homework at all – they are working from fallacious, ideologically-driven premises, that are not based in fact”.
OK…..I dare now use another “Big Word”….PRETENTIOUS!!!! :)
Orpheius my darling, where were you when my brother was thrown on the ER floor left to bleed to death in a border country to the US, just because he was a foreigner? It wasn’t until my Nana pulled out her checkbook that they hurried him into surgery.
And were you present during the numerous confessions in “Secondary” (Customs & Immigration interviews) at 5 of our major airports during the span of 20 years where passengers from foreign countries came to US with the intent to walk into a hospital 2 hours later to have surgery the next day?
Were you in the room next to mine during my weeks of stay at http://www.optimumhealth.org/ learning about the nutritional benefits of raw food and growing your own wheatgrass at home?
And how about those “Banos de Sangre” at http://www.elgrullodar.com/indiceen.htm ?? Was it fun waking up at 4am and walk into a steam room giving yourself a body shock by pouring your body with ice cold mountain water every 5 minutes?
Have you had accupunture in 2 different continents? Were you a Vegan for 5 years?
Do you have a certification in Shiatsu Anma technique? How about Reflexology?
I tell you this not to impress you, but to impress upon you that taking your health into your own hands goes beyond politics ( or ideology as you call it).
Orpheius, you need to relax and use some of that stored up passion and think outside the box for a while.
I had many celebrities, high powered polititians and medics on my massage table after 911 where they found the healing they craved which they could not find with allopathic medicine.
They say that healthy bodies support healthy minds and spirit. I believe they are one in the same.
Why was the American experiment called an experiment? Because it never had been tried before. What had never been tried? Man ruling themselves.
In 1787, when the Founding Fathers had hammered out the U.S. Constitution in Independence Hall in Philadelphia, Benjamin Franklin told an inquiring woman what the gathering had produced, “A republic, madam, if you can keep it.”
So unlike you, Orpheous, I have faith that the American people can rule themselves if they know who they are and what they believe in (enlightment), followed by education which empowers them, which will eventually lead to entrepreneurship.
So, there you Orpheous. My (out of the box) homework called experience in a nutshell. I’ve earned the increasing silver threads on the top of my head that I wear with pride.
Stay strong and stay healthy both you & Brad. Debate is healthy ( BTW, did I also mention I was a certified mediator?) HAH!
Laura
Brad:
By claiming that “everyone calls the Affordable Healthcare Act ‘obamacare’” only makes my point for me – it’s a pejorative and not based in fact. That’s just not what it’s called – it does not matter if “everyone” calls it that. So thank you for affirming that point for me! Furthermore, by implying “everyone” (which is not true anyway) you are also employing a Bandwagon Fallacy – this does not help you to make your points and shows a flaw in reasoning.
Now, your so-called “free market” is anything but free – it’s just a euphemistic cover for “monopolistic capitalism” and always has been.
The real truth regarding “free market capitalism” is that it is an abrogation of civic responsibility, a blank check for zero accountability, and fertile ground for sowing the seeds of corruption. But the ideology of “free market capitalism” also appeals to a deep-seated narcissism in many humans who’ve deluded themselves into believing that they are “making it on their own” – nonsense; no one makes it on their own. Next to religion, that is one of the most dangerous myths perpetuated by conservatives and would-be libertarians.
The free market when left to its devices has failed, time and again; which is why it has had to be bailed out by the very same government and tax payers that it claims to abhor and wants to not interfere with business. Every time (over the last 100+ years) it gets itself into trouble (as a result of it’s own pathological excesses) it needs to bailed out. When economic times are good, the “rugged individualists” scream “laissez faire!”; when they screw up as a result of financial malfeasance (which is occurring with increased frequency), they then scream “oh save us Uncle Sam and middle class tax payers or else our entire system will collapse!”. Then after they get more tax money than the much-hated social safety net programs, they then blame their own incompetence and criminal behavior on the government! What a gaggle of craven, hypocritical cowards!
Every time regulation did not exist or was reduced/limited, the so-called free market created problems not just to the rest of society by to itself!
I am self-employed now, again, too, and began as such before spending many years in the corporate world. The notion that private companies or entities are more efficient or better able to make decisions that are fairer is just another myth. I speak from personal experience and over 30 years of reading and studying history. It is THE BIG LIE that has been fobbed off to an increasingly mis-educated public that has only been made more ignorant by corporate and wealthy elite funded media, revisionism, and propaganda.
Regarding SS and Medicare – you, again, misunderstood what I wrote. And the system is not broken; in fact, the trust fund is solvent through 2037 and can pay ALL benefits without doing a single thing now. Furthermore, you again made my argument for me by saying that Congress raids the fund for its Imperial Wars. Exactly right! That’s the issue, not the fund itself. Again – SS can be made totally secure by ensuring full employment but that is NOT what these “free market” capitalists really want.
If left up to its devices, the “market” would do NOTHING that costs it anything – history has shown this time and time and time again.
So, why should we pay into a pool of money that provides healthcare for everyone? For the same reason we pay taxes for anything, Brad: defense, roads, communications, infrastructure, R&D (that’s too costly for the private sector to risk), subsidies to actually give businesses a shot in the arm, etc., etc. —- in other words because it benefits all of society and gives everyone a shot at prosperity. But hey, if you are concerned about welfare and a free ride on the tax payers dime, look no further than corporate welfare and executive compensation.
This venue that you and I (and your other guests) are debating and discussing on (Internet) came as a result of government-funded research. Did you know that?
Scientific knowledge about Astronomy, Cosmology, Biology, even medicine – would not exist to the extend it exists without tax-payer and government research support. Did you know THAT?
So for you to claim that we should “let the market decide” these issues and many others, illustrates a profound lack of historical understanding and even your own self-embraced economic “beliefs” that frankly boggles the imagination.
What works best is a give-take partnership between private enterprise, the government, and its citizens; that is what works well for all concerned and allows innovation and prosperity for all – not just unfettered “free market/enterprise”.
Good luck.
~M
@ Mike
Maybe I should of put a LOL after Obamacare. Figured its easier than calling it H.R Crap Bill.
You make a lot of great points but a lot of it needs to be taken one step farther.
How does capitalism not work? I live near Detroit. There is plenty of non-accountability laying around me. Want a 1000sq ft house for $3k? Big 3 thought they were invincible and then Toyota, Nissan, and Honda swooped in and stole market share.
There was nothing “free market” about whats happened in the last 6 years or so in regards to the bailouts. The Govt you speak so fondly of bailed them out when the bank/ auto companies should have been allowed to go BK and had to sell off its good parts. If the Federal Reserve was not around setting interest rates then there would not of been the housing bust.
Fine 2037 for SS. I’ll be 57. Why would I ever want to pay into something knowing that there will be nothing waiting there for me? That’s as dumb as a football bat. I would rather save myself and invest.
Defense – I hate knowing that we have over 1100 US bases around the world killing people for no reason then besides not being American.
Roads – Have you ever driven on MIchigan roads? They are garbage. The problem is they keep asking for more money. My county already spent its budget for salting and plowing the roads for the year. What do you mean the private sector could not handle the cost? The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambassador_Bridge is privately owned. It is the busiest international crossing in North America. Nobody around here complains about the guy making a billion dollars a year owning the bridge besides the politicians. They want to use tax payer dollars to make another bridge but the State of MI is broke. The owner has said he would invest his money in building another bridge but the U.S and Canada will not allow him. So we all suffer. Backups at the bridge are very common.
If you don’t like it that executives earn $10 million a year then stop buying their product. You might as well stop watching movies and sports to because the athletes and stars make that kind of money. Forget music. Could it ever be that maybe they make a great product and they are worth it? Corporate welfare exists because of the bailouts and regulations set forth by the Govt. You can tell me I’m wrong all day but I’ve lived around the UAW my whole life and they were able to get favors for them in MIchigan. Then the market kicked in and it didn’t matter.
Didn’t a private company just put a plane into sub-orbit http://www.virgingalactic.com/?
I understand that you have a lot more life experience than me but to say that I have not done my homework is BS. I’ve provided links in my previous comments to the info I came across. I know you did not click on them because the stats on my site shows no clicks on those links. There are at least 5 hours or more of reading disproving just about EVERYTHING you stand behind. EVERYTHING. I didn’t just wake up one day hating the Govt. I was fired from my mortgage job because we could not close any more loans. I went to Google and typed in “why is the housing market crashing.” That was in 2007. I haven’t stopped reading.
I think its amazing that I (or anybody) can wipe my own ass with the things you’ve said. I think its amazing how you think you know what’s best for everybody. I have no clue what’s best for everybody. That’s why I don’t support anything our Govt says. How am I to decide what’s best for somebody on the other side of the country. I mean, I can barely wipe my ass, but you already know that. Probably should make a law that creates a agency full of Govt jackboots that come to our houses showing the proper way to wipe your ass and if caught doing it wrong they will fine you.
But you win. I’m obviously too dumb to know what’s good for me. Can you help me tie my shoes?
People need to do their homework. Read your history:
“What the Government giveth, the Government can taketh away!”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110126/ap_on_re_us/us_health_care_overhaul_costs_2
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20110127/D9L0BDUG0.html
@ Laura
Nice quote AND sources. You have done your homework.
And without public oversight and redress, powerful corporations and wealthy elite can just as easily take away benefits they previously provided as part of a service simply because it “costs too much” or “undermines competitiveness”.
The problem is (and the founder recognized this which is why they architected checks-and-balances in our Constitution) without oversight, any powerful, wealthy institution can become an unaccountable concentration of power.
It is clear that neither Laura nor Brad have done their homework at all – they are working from fallacious, ideologically-driven premises, that are not based in fact.
Brad:
I enjoyed your article & especially your rebuttals. You are definitely on to something!!
Stay strong!!
@ Laura
Thanks. The question people do not ask when it comes to the Healthcare debate (or anything Govt ran for that matter) is “if it was such a great idea then why has it never worked once in the history of the world without bankrupting the nation / state / city that set it up?”
The problem is people think they know it all but their neighbors don’t and that its better off that the Govt does something to take care of them (or the stupid people / idiots). When unfortunately, your neighbors are probably doing just fine taking care of themselves (and are not idiots). What makes it worse is none of the politicians who think of these ides of things “we need” or should have “a right to” are experts in the field to begin with.
The level of disinformation and lies surrounding healthcare is frightening. Mr. Ryan is lying or delusional. The government is NOT “running everything” – just not true. One must still purchase private insurance and when the mandate kicks in (2014) this means even more business for private insurance companies, NOT less! We already do have an example of totally government run healthcare – the VA. Yes, the system our veterans use is socialized – paid for and operated by the government and, not surprisingly, it’s the most highly rated and cost-effective subsystem in the U.S.
The system and law that recently passed is not even single payer (like Medicare). Sorry but most people have bought into a dangerous lie that makes them vote against their own interests and at the very least – makes them appear as uninformed and fatuous to others who do know the truth. Ryan is a lying ideologue who cares about his constituents about as much as his corporate benefactors do.
Please learn the facts and do not uncritically accept propaganda from the likes of Paul Ryan and Michelle “sig heil” Bachmann.
@ Orpheus
Couple things I need clarity on from you. Are you for or against Obamacare?
If the Govt says you have to purchase health insurance doesn’t that mean they are running healthcare?
I agree with you on the increased business for insurance companies.
My parents were both in the military and they dreaded going to the VA hospital because the services were not as good as their private Dr. Can you please provide information about the VA being a great model? I’d love to read it. The things I’ve found that say its good is because the Drs. get paid a salary and have their student loans paid for by the taxpayers.
Government isn’t paying for the VA – taxpayers and interest on the U.S debt is paying for it which cause inflation and a need to raise taxes. That topic could go on and on.
I don’t think Ryan is in favor of Obamacare so how could corporations benefit from that? I don’t follow him and have only recently heard of Michelle because she has been supporting Ron Paul’s Audit the Fed bills.
Define “best interests” for me when it comes to the Govt running or even being involved in health care decisions for even one person.
Hello Brad:
First, by referring to healthcare legislation (debated / passed BY congress, then signed into law by the President) as “Obamacare”, you are demonstrating a conservative bias by aping the party line. There is NO such thing as “obamacare” – that is a contrived perjorative that keeps spinning ’round a conservative media echo chamber – the healthcare plan as it stands is not the brainchild of President Obama. I am absolutely in favor of nationalized healthcare removing an inhuman profit motive from something that every other industrialized nation considers as a human right and provides to its citizens. That said, the current healthcare plan does not go far enough in my opinion.
Secondly, you misunderstood my first post. I am NOT in favor of more profts for the Insurance industry, quite the contrary: I wish to do away with the private insurance profit motive, which is why I support nationalized healthcare. In fact, nationalizing healthcare would make it more efficient; every nation having it, actually provides better and more care at a lower cost – this is just a well-documented fact. What we settled for (without even a public option) is a watered down system that only improved the private system a little.
Thirdly, every study I’ve read and even anecdotal evidence clearly suggests that the VA provides excellent quality care at a fraction of the cost of privatized systems. Furthermore, if your parents indicated the contrary, I suspect that they, too, are ideologically opposed to nationalized healthcare or they had specialty issues that are not consistent with generalized care. I cannot say because I have no details on your parents situations. But my father was in the military as well and they took care of him quite well even before the VA made all of the notable admin/IT improvements in the late 1980′s through the 1990′s. Since then, the quality of care has only increased.
Fourth, the government DOES budget and pay for VA and all such services by way of tax dollars. Regarding Social Security and Medicare, they are paid for via payroll tax deductions. If the right wing is really all that concerned about the trust funds viability (which they’re not, really), they’d focus on job creation which would increase payroll tax receipts which would (guess what?) solve any long-term solvency issues with regards SS and Medicare!
Fifth, of course Ryan, et al, are not favor of “Obamacare” – that was the entire point of my first post. You took out of context everything I wrote previously! Ryan is a ultra-conservative ideologue and he, and the now right-wing/Tea Party dominated House of Representatives want to roll it back! Do they really have any viable alternatives? No, of course not – this is political gamesmanship; they simply want to return the system to the sorry state it was in prior to the modest improvements provided in the current health care law.
Sixth, no, no, no (and I explained this in my first post, too) – if the government is ONLY paying for the cost of healthcare that is called “single-payer”; if, however, they pay for the system (via taxes, etc.) AND run the hospitals, billing, administration, doctors, nurses, etc., then THAT is what is properly called “government-run”, i.e., Socialized medicine. But that is NOT what we had and certainly not what we have now, my friend. What we have now is a lame hybrid that socializes some of the costs and allows private insurance companies to benefit from that; and come 2014, if/when the mandate kicks in (not likely given the activist nutjobs in the Tea Party), then yes – we will all be required to purchase health insurance to help fund the entire system which everyone will depend on, but again – private insurance companies will then have about another 55 million subscribers in their already captive audiences. Final note on this point – in essence, we are subsidizing (socializing) costs for the insurance companies and ultimately fattening up their profits! This is NOT an efficient allocation of cost-benefit ratios.
Finally, Michelle Bachmann and Paul Ryan are both associated with the Tea Party groups who have a regressive ideological bent; hence, my associating them together. Regarding “best interests”, any socio-economic and political current that allows concentration of power into private hands (wealthy people and corporations) without the same accountability as government (called redress), is by definition, not in the best interests of the citizenry; which is precisely what Ryan, Bachmann, Paul, etc., seek to do. Regardless of all of the “patriotic” sounding rhetoric and other such inane nonsense about “individualism’ coming out of the mouths of these people, they want YOU, to have less power and less opportunity to redress grievances with centers of power than you (and all of us) currently have.
Think, Brad: Our Constitution (the document that Ryan and his mob claim to worship so much) provides balance of power and checks on any one branch having too much power. Yet, they want to remove all regulation and legal accountability for corporations (insurance companies) so that YOU have no power whatsoever to redress your grievances. If you vote for conservatives, Tea Partiers, and Republicans, you are, in the long run, giving up liberty, freedom, and yes – choices in the marketplace, as well.
Thanks for consideration and BTW – the P90x really does seem like a good program!
Best,
Michael
@ Michael
Thanks for leaving such a detailed response. You used a couple big words in there that I had to look up like “pejorative.” I like that one. Made me do a little bit of homework. But come on man, everybody calls it Obamacare. Also, I don’t consider myself a right-winger or R. Everything I say is based on my gatherings of Free Market Economics. I’m more of a top-center in the balcony economist looking down below at both sides arguing and not getting anywhere.
So I guess I’ll give you my points starting with…
#2. The problem with Nationalized Healthcare (or anything) is that not everybody needs it so why should they be forced to pay for it? I’m self-employed and the only reason why I buy my own health insurance (which is cheaper than my cell phone bill and cable bill) is because I go snowboarding and would rather pay the $70 a month to cover the E-Room bill if I smash my face. I have been to the Drs. once in 6 years (because I take care of myself doing P90X) and it was only because the health insurance company said I needed to get a physical and some blood work done. I called around and negotiated the Drs visit. It was kind of fun actually. Paid them in cash. So why would any healthy person ever buy health insurance just to go to the Drs. when they can pay cash? Health insurance should only be used for big things, not Drs. visits.
The question is really simple. If you are in favor of Nationalized Healthcare then you are in favor of raising taxes. I have no problem with it if you or anybody that is in favor of it is willing to pick up mine and everybody that’s against its tab. If you are not willing to pick up our tabs then you are not in favor of Nationalized Healthcare. You can’t get brought into the emotional side of this. While people feel the profit model is in-human it is by far the best model out there.
#3. My parents never had any major health issues. Dad worked for Ford full time, did National Guard pt. Mom was ft Guard. We always went to our private Dr. Let’s assume the care is just as good at the VA. The issue is that the costs are subsidized by taxpayers. Why don’t we all join the military so we get the same cost? Can’t work as who’s going to pay the taxes to fund it? Do they just print more money up to cover it? Doesn’t that cause inflation?
#4. I agree about the trust fund thing. There’s nothing in it anyways. They are using that money to fund our never ending wars killing people. How does the Govt create jobs? The answer is simple. Eliminate SS and Medicare all together then this goes away.
#5. I agree about the gamesmanship and both sides are idiots. The only real alternative is to eliminate all of it (Medicare, Medicaid, SS) and get the Govt out of the way. Let the Free Market decide how health care should be ran.
#6. Well put and this leads into a bunch of other issues. You, I, and everybody else does not like the fact that private insurance companies are going to get 55 m more people because of this bill. I wish I could pass a bill making 55 million people buy P90X from me. I’d be able to retire. The question is how did we get to this point? It started when the IRS allowed health insurance to be a pre-tax benefit for employers to offer. Why wouldn’t you take health insurance if your employer was paying for it? You’d be stupid not to take it. Companies used this to attract employees. It still goes on today. Everybody is so benefits focused when it comes to taking a job now. What if the people between the ages of 18-35 didn’t take health insurance with their jobs and paid for Drs. visit only when they needed. Do you think that would put a dent in the private companies pockets?
If the Govt was doing such a great job of being accountable then why have they not been accountable for anything? If govt regulation was such a great idea then why is it not working? I don’t know how these people want me to have less power. The only one of the three I follow is Paul. Everything he says would involve more power for me. All that regulation does is slow down the process. The market always wins.
The question is simple. If you can’t take care of yourself and feel that you need more help then keep pushing for more Govt involvement.
I’m going to have to disagree 100% on your giving up liberty, freedom, and choices statement. How do I have MORE choices to decide on what I want to do with my money when they pass a bill forcing me to buy something I would rather not buy. How do ANY of us have more freedom when we the IRS is going to be looking on my tax return to see if I buy health insurance.
“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” – Benjamin Franklin
The problem with all of this is that there is a debate in which there shouldn’t be one. If Govt was not involved the free market would decide best how to do this. The U.S wouldn’t be going broke making promises it can’t keep and people would be forced to take responsibility for their own well being.
Yes, P90X is a great program. Its changed mine and about a million other peoples lives. I’m so involved with it because I enjoy helping people make the decision to take care of their own health.
brad,
those articles you linked to are clearly not objective, the titles clearly state that as i have pointed out. i do not care to read those opinions and they are not intended for me. their intention omits readers like me looking for facts intentionally. they are directed to people who have already drank the koolaid and want more rhetoric to reinforce the narrative.
i was thinking how lovely life would be if i was a right-wing economist. i could be a mediocre student and come up with all kinds of crap unchecked and publish it to a hungry base despite disagreeing with the overwhelming majority of the scientific community and 90% of my peers. i could be shot to the top just by subscribing to an ideology and get all kinds of people to read and believe my crap. wow.
well brad, i am off to do something productive and try to contribute…i will let you get back to your sit-ups.
@ Sandy
I don’t even know what to say. If you read them you would see that they are objective. However, you choose not to based on the titles. I could provide more but we both know your not going to read them.
Why are you looking for facts when you already know them?
Could the overwhelming majority be wrong? Could they be given the wrong info from the scientific community? Isn’t the majority not happy right now with the current system? Am I wrong? If so, please tell me why. You could be shot to the top by subscribing to an ideology. Isn’t that how Obama was elected? How’s that working out?
Again, I’m not a right wing economist. I don’t vote R or D. Your right, I have drank the kool-aid and it tastes pretty good. Took awhile to keep it down because I’d never heard anybody say the things I wanted you to read. Think about how much more fun you could have talking about this stuff if you saw it from another angle.
So I guess you win because I failed to get you to read one article showing an opinion that you’ve never heard of. I lose again because you decided not to tell me why the things I think are right are wrong. Wouldn’t you want to educate somebody when you know the right answers? Please, teach me. Provide me your sources so I can read and further educate myself. I don’t want to go through life thinking I’m a moron. I’m guessing your not going to because you want me to be a moron. I’ll just get back to my sit-ups.
furthermore brad,
who really loses here? i am just an reader responding to a really stupid post. this is your site and directly linked to your business. your poor judgment in fawning over this knuckleheaded congressman and stating your backward opinion on economics and politics has alienated you to at least half of your potential demographic…way to go! btw, i called you a moron not an idiot. i stand by my opinion.
@ Sandy
Sure, call it a dumb post. It was just saying a politician does P90X.
“Backward opinion on economics and politics” LOL. Your not the first person to say that. I would even agree with you. That is until I started reading it and much of what I listed is coming true.
“Half of my potential demographic” – I wish. Its more like 99% I’ve alienated. Nothing that I’ve linked to is taught in schools. You have to search for it.
You got me good. Moron…4 times now.
“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” – Gandhi
wow brad, you read alot of opinions…
you have quoted no actual scientifically produced data, merely opinions of ideologues.
you do not actually seem able to comprehend what you read either….i did not accuse you of being a republican, i stated you quoted republican talking points. go ahead and re-read my post a little slower this time.
congratulations on reading anyway brad.
@ Sandy
I did read your post and its obvious that you did not click on any of the links I provided. Each article quotes mountains of data about historical facts in regards to Government run health care not working. I’m not going to re-write all of it when I know what’s in the article. Nothing I linked to is Republican based. It is all based off of the Austrian School of Free Market Economics. Its facts. Go ahead, read it all. If you were to attach a political party to its teachings then the Libertarians would be the closest.
Unfortunately, we both lose in this situation. I know you did not read anything that I linked to. You probably feel like you’ve been backed up into a corner and its easier to call me an idiot…again than to go through what I posted and ask questions. There has to be a reason why I posted it and stand behind what I linked to. But since you choose not to read it and understand for yourself the effects of bad policy (or at the very least another opinion of what our Government is telling us is good for us) then that’s one less person to spread the message of Liberty and freedom.
I sounded a whole lot like you and Jim a couple years ago before I started reading what I linked to. Spend a couple hours reading those articles. You’ll probably feel cured after.
jim, i do not need to read them to KNOW they are opinions…re-read the titles. they ARE opinions! they may quote a bunch of studies and whatever, but they are analyzed by the ideologues who wrote them…that is what an opinion is. studies provide facts and allow you to form an opinion. i do not need an ideologue to pre-digest information for me to give me an opinion.
i am far from being backed into a corner here brad…you are just spewing crap!
@ Sandy
You called me an idiot 3 times now. Brutal.
So what your saying is you choose not to understand another point of view based off of facts. That’s just bad. It’s like you just told me that you know everything. If you know everything than can you please provide your response as to why Obamacare is going to be better than everything I’ve just posted? It would make it easier for me as I wouldn’t have to go searching for facts and opinions anymore. Take a couple days. Its cool. I’m excited to learn more!!
hey brad,
jim is correct you are a moron. instead of quoting anecdote, innuendo and republican talking points, do some investigation of your own.
stick to lifting heavy things and putting them down.
@ Sandy
LOL. I pick things up and put them down. I like that commercial too. You got me there.
So you obviously did not read in my post where I said that I am not a Republican or Democrat. Are you ready for my investigation and sources?
http://mises.org/daily/3543 “Why Obamacare Can’t Work”
http://mises.org/daily/3855 “Obamacare is a devastating tax on the working class.”
http://mises.org/daily/3737 “A Free Market Guide to Health Care” – There are over 20 articles in there you should read.
The Revolution – A Manifesto – By Dr. Ron Paul
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/#40316 – What Free Market Health Care Reform Should Look Like
Yes, I have read every book and article I linked to. I suggest you read them too. Your views on things will hopefully change. Mine definitely did.
@ Sandy and Jim – Do you want me to provide more Austrian based free market economic and Libertarian based resources on why Obamacare will make things worse? Feel free to comment.
@ Jim – No, I did not read the bill. Its 2700 pages long!! Did you read it? The question needs to be did any of the people who voted on it read it either.
Also – I recognize that when I originally wrote the article that I did go off topic a little bit. Its because I have done lots of investigation and reading into why Obamacare (and any Govt ran agency or department for that matter) is what’s destroying the US. The only thing I know about Paul Ryan is that he does P90X and the speech he gave trying to show why Obamacare is bad was pretty good. But that’s it.
The point I was trying to make during my tangent was how much more important it is now to take care of ones own health due to the upcoming (bad) changes due to Obamacare.
You’re right, we don’t come here for politics. Especially from someone who freely indicates they’re not well informed, then in the next breath makes a disparaging comment about an important piece of legislation. Quick, genius, give me your top five objections to the health care bill. Ok, just one.
Where do you get this ‘your doctor will be answering to Nancy Pelosi’ nonsense. Have your read any or all of the bill? Or do you just make this crap up as you go?
The government doesn’t run health care under the bill. Stick to sit-ups and squats. When you wander into the deep end, it’s clear you’re over your head pretty quickly. Moron.
@ JIm
Thanks for commenting. I never said I was not well informed. I just said I like to write about health and fitness on this site.
Here are some of my reasons. Not sure if they are my top 5 but I threw in a bonus one because you asked for a quick response. I’m thinking you’d be happy with a 30 minutes turn time.
1. Government enforced monopolies of HMO and pharmaceutical companies will rarely ever bring up non-invasive treatment methods because the FDA will not allow these ways to be patented as it sinks into their profits.
2. Obamacare forces everybody to buy healthcare even if they don’t want to buy it. Why not make people buy VCR’s if you can pass a bill making people buy something they don’t need.
3. Obamacare gives insurers guaranteed profits, guaranteed customers for life, and Uncle Sam pay’s the bills.
4. The IRS has said it will need to hire 13k more agents just to enforce Obamacare. Do we really need more IRS agents or the IRS at all?
5. Recently, my own healthcare was raised $10 a month because I turned 30 AND because of the upcoming price increases Humana expects BECAUSE of Obamacare. Do you want me to show you the letter? Since I do all of those sit ups and squats I should get lower rates.
6. Bonus reason – Do I even need to get started on Medicare and Medicaid? You say the Govt doesn’t run healthcare but I can’t think of any two larger failures in health care then these two. They are bankrupting the USA. You do know that the Government runs those right?
Your turn.